Talk:Corporatocracy
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Neutrality dispute
[edit]@Qutlook: Why is this article's neutrality being disputed? Jarble (talk) 03:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
More info on Lobbying needed
[edit]There needs to be more information on how Lobbying gives Corporations near total control on policy and enacted laws. Maybe mention the scientific study that found that Corporate Interest Lobbyists get what they want (laws enacted, changed, or removed) at a significantly higher rate than the populace. 108.224.106.197 (talk) 08:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- If you have reliably sourced content, you're welcome to add it to the article. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 16:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- To address the query about how lobbying gives corporations significant control over policy and enacted laws, we can incorporate some key points:Lobbying by corporations and special interest groups has a disproportionate influence on U.S. policy-making compared to the general public. A Princeton University study found that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.Corporate lobbyists often succeed in shaping legislation and regulations to benefit their interests. For example, the financial industry spent $2 billion on lobbying and campaign contributions between 1999-2008, which helped deregulate Wall Street and set the stage for the 2008 financial crisis.The revolving door between government and lobbying firms further entrenches corporate influence. Many former lawmakers and staffers become lobbyists, using their connections to advocate for corporate clients. This creates a system where policy decisions are often aligned with corporate interests rather than public opinion.While lobbying is constitutionally protected, the current system allows wealthy corporations and individuals to have outsized influence through aggressive lobbying and campaign finance. This contributes to a form of corporatocracy, where corporate and financial interests wield significant control over the political process and policy outcomes. 2601:188:CF80:1D00:4981:5659:E8C4:8C86 (talk) 02:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.ncsl.org/ethics/how-states-define-lobbying-and-lobbyist 2601:188:CF80:1D00:4981:5659:E8C4:8C86 (talk) 02:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you've provided a link to iterations of laws - legal texts - which are primary sources and not valid as sources. You've not linked to the "scientific study" you mentioned previously (assuming you are the same author as the initial comment). Do you have a link to the Princeton study? There's a lot of specific details in what you wrote, but absent are reliable third-party sources for verification. The article already discusses the influence of lobbyists. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 02:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.ncsl.org/ethics/how-states-define-lobbying-and-lobbyist 2601:188:CF80:1D00:4981:5659:E8C4:8C86 (talk) 02:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- To address the query about how lobbying gives corporations significant control over policy and enacted laws, we can incorporate some key points:Lobbying by corporations and special interest groups has a disproportionate influence on U.S. policy-making compared to the general public. A Princeton University study found that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.Corporate lobbyists often succeed in shaping legislation and regulations to benefit their interests. For example, the financial industry spent $2 billion on lobbying and campaign contributions between 1999-2008, which helped deregulate Wall Street and set the stage for the 2008 financial crisis.The revolving door between government and lobbying firms further entrenches corporate influence. Many former lawmakers and staffers become lobbyists, using their connections to advocate for corporate clients. This creates a system where policy decisions are often aligned with corporate interests rather than public opinion.While lobbying is constitutionally protected, the current system allows wealthy corporations and individuals to have outsized influence through aggressive lobbying and campaign finance. This contributes to a form of corporatocracy, where corporate and financial interests wield significant control over the political process and policy outcomes. 2601:188:CF80:1D00:4981:5659:E8C4:8C86 (talk) 02:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Should Zeitgeist be included as a corporatocracy example?
[edit]I feel like it talks more about conspiracy theories than as a proper example of corporatocracies in general. Might want to delete it maybe? As a first step. 152.208.66.57 (talk) 17:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, its reliability on the matter this article discusses is wiped out by its focus on conspiracy theories. WP isn't a list of things that might be related. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)